Saturday, January 26, 2008

Why the hell did I stay so long in that stupid country?!

Just looking at the website of Chester University:

Tuition Fees
You will find that your contribution to your tuition fees differs from university to university, but will usually be somewhere in the region of £3,145 per year. This will increase slightly each year in line with the cost of inflation. However, you will normally not be expected to pay for these directly until after you have completed your course, and until you are earning more than £15,000 per year. Instead, you will normally be eligible for a tuition fee loan to cover fee costs, which will be paid directly to us on your behalf.

So, it's about $6,300 a year for undergrad. You don't pay up front and you don't start paying back until you can actually afford to.

And I'm told that this is after the system was screwed up under the Blairistes.

Its a funny thing about Canada; they aspire to being a socialist country, but can't even get students into their universities.

Just another of the millions of reasons Britain is still better than that pathetic backwater I was living in for sooo very long.





df said...

I went to Oxford before Blair got his hands on the system, and it cost me nothing! I had to pay back that nothing after my degree had finished. Good old days.

Hilary Jane Margaret White said...

Yes its a shame that if we have to have socialism, we don't actually seem to get the benefits that are supposed to go along with it.

Just the CCTV and biometric ID cards.

Anonymous said...

It's attempted social engineering, actually: the idea is that 50% of all 18-year-olds should go to university (though how they arrived at that figure I have no idea). Since it is clear even to the meanest Socialist intelligence that 50% of people are not, in fact, capable of getting decent degrees in an academic subject, the Labour government has Taken Steps. First, they waved their magic want and made all the polytechnics into universities; then they encouraged these institutions to offer courses like Liverpool Hope's Disability Studies ("An important feature of this subject area is the intention to challenge negative stereotypes of people with special needs and to promote positive images of them").

They haven't yet managed to raise the intake to 50%, but it's gradually going up - apart from a blip when the last rise in tuition fees took place - and obviously, there's only one way you can go from about 5% at university to 40 or 50%: get rid of state-funded grants and charge everyone. Only the actual charging is postponed. Today's undergraduate will leave college with an approximate debt of £30K, and (much of the time) a Noddy qualification which no employer wants. Not good.

Hilary Jane Margaret White said...

ah yes, the triumph of nominalism

You are university student materail because you attend a university which is a university because we call it that.