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Monday, October 17, 2011
What Novusordoists and Necons don't get:
That if you spend years or even months exclusively assisting at the Traditional Rite, you can see much more easily just how bereft and barren is the new. You get re-sensitised. I have people all the time telling me, "You should go to both". I am going to assume that they don't know, because otherwise, I would start to suspect they want me to be miserable.
This was the reaction from a friend in the US:
"Went to a Novus Ordo Mass today for the first time in months. Spiritually, left me desolate. On a human level, mortified, disappointed, and above all, sad."
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Yes, and this probably is why whole bunches of bishops don't want the TLM to be available. Once you go Trid, the truth can't be hid.
ReplyDeleteI suppose friends say, "You should go to both" just so that you don't go out of your mind if you can only get to the NO. However, I'm not sure that would work.
Our pastor learned the EF at the beginning of the year and then was transferred to another parish.
ReplyDeleteSome of our servers learned how to serve the EF mass and they were thrilled. New priest comes in and the zone bishop (who actually preached at the July 1st EF mass in TO) told him to have the servers stop bowing, genuflecting or acknowledging the tabernacle, altar and priest during mass. The same goes for any lector or Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion when they are in the sanctuary.
The older servers are slowing dropping out and the enthusiasm has dropped significantly.(my son being one of them)
Our former priest had also prayed the Latin Novus Order mass at times on various Sundays and our choir would sing. This was done quite nice.
I miss the reverent Novus Ordo now.
I shan't say one should go to both; I'll just claim there are places that do the Ordinary Form properly; and acknowledge that most places don't.
ReplyDeleteI go to both because it works with our schedule. It's not so bad because we have a traditional leaning young priest. He says the NO as well as it can be said.
ReplyDeleteI go to both; I attend both the EF and the Latin OF at one church, and a bog-standard English OF at my local parish (which is properly, even traditionally where I ought to be going anyway). It's true that I find the bog-standard local mass jarring after all the lovely Latin. But it keeps me humble in a lot of ways, and if I went all-Latin basically no one would ever talk to me about religious things, they'd write me off as a nutjob. Moreso, that is, than they already do.
ReplyDelete"Some Guy," Please read the commbox rules posted to the sidebar on the left regarding the use of real or plausible names. You have received your first warning, but that is only because I am tired and I detected no whiff of snark in your post. Normally you would receive no warning whatever. But please modify your information immediately since it is known that I am not capable of sustaining such generosity for more than a few minutes.
ReplyDeleteAs for the "proper" way to say Mass, that's the problem with the NO liturgical texts. There is no "proper" way since the whole thing is structured to be changed to suit the whim of the "celebrant" and his minions. As I understand it, it's nothing but "options". It is not, therefore, properly speaking a liturgy at all, but a show that is there to express the peculiar tastes of the "sacramental ministers".
PS: I'm not joking about the name thing.
"if I went all-Latin basically no one would ever talk to me about religious things,"
ReplyDeleteYayyyy!!! Oh man, wouldn't that be GREAT?
I am about as nutty a religious notjob as it's possible to be, and they talk to me about religion all the time. Any suggestions as to what I could do to stop them?
Some things are worth being written off as a "nutjob" for. The TLM is one of them.
ReplyDeleteLydia
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ReplyDeleteI just want to talk to you about hats. There are really cute ones in Banana Republic of all places right now. They come in multiple colors and I am having a hard time choosing. - Karen
ReplyDeleteYes. I know. It is so difficult going to the Novus Ordo. Although I have to say that celebrating it as a Priest can be just fine. On the other hand, I haven't been trained up in the Tridentine Mass yet, so I can't compare. But one of the big problems with the Mass--is not the Mass--it is that people who celebrate it and attend it do NOT understand that it is sacred ritual. I don't know WHAT is going through their minds. Not much, apparently.
ReplyDeleteOnce back in school we were asked to compare the Novus Ordo collects in Latin and in the translation. I noticed that they were systematically mistranslated to leave out "spirit" "angel" and other terms that were not tangible and empirical. It boggles my mind that Rome has taken half a century to fix the translations. As a translator, I would be fired on the spot for such tomfoolery. And if I weren't fired, I would feel obligated to fire myself. I wonder if we now will have "sub tectum meum" back again.
ReplyDeleteWe started to use the new translation in Australia a few months ago and yes, "sub tectum meum" is there. Not that I go to the N.O. anymore, but I am aware of what the translation is. In those parishes that use it at least...
ReplyDeleteLydia
Read the rules again, whoever you are. I don't allow obviously made-up names and I don't allow anonymous posts.
ReplyDeleteKaren, send me a link to the hats page.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't look like much in the photo
ReplyDeletehttp://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=60775&vid=1&pid=874881&scid=874881022
but it's SO CUTE on. I'm thinking that I will get the grey.
Spot on here! I think silence really scares people. They need to be led.
ReplyDeletePS just came to your blog for the first time! Great! Where are you staying in Rome? I lived there for a 6 months in 2006.