Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, even thine altars, O Lord of hosts, my King, and my God.
Well according to Joanna Bogle, this is all a conspiracry to stiffle the beatification of JP II "the most awesome". And you can guess where she lays the blame...
I thought at the time the 5-year waiting period was waived for his cause that it wouldn't matter ... with 27 years as Pope and his volumes and volumes of writings, they'll need that head start just to slog through the paperwork...
A cause for G. K. Chesterton would have the same difficulty. :)
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I'm not into ecumania, myself, but I'm not convinced that JPII can be accused of religious indifferentism. Holding an ecumenical and interfaith gathering is not necessarily a sign of religious indifferentism.
It's just my username. Not a pseudonym. Anyhow, it's John. You know, your co-worker. The guy who bugs you all the time.
In any case, Felix, I'm a fan of trusting the Church when it canonizes someone, even if some theologians are divided on whether they're infallible or not. After all, who are we to decide whether or not someone should be canonized?
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Well according to Joanna Bogle, this is all a conspiracry to stiffle the beatification of JP II "the most awesome". And you can guess where she lays the blame...
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ReplyDeleteI thought at the time the 5-year waiting period was waived for his cause that it wouldn't matter ... with 27 years as Pope and his volumes and volumes of writings, they'll need that head start just to slog through the paperwork...
A cause for G. K. Chesterton would have the same difficulty. :)
peace,
So what happens when he IS canonized? Do we consider him a fake saint?
ReplyDeleteThe Dude's comment raises the question of whether beatifications and canonisations are infallible.
ReplyDeleteThe consensus of traditional (aka orthodox) theologians was that beatifications are not infallible.
My understanding is that opinions were divided as to whether canonisations are infallible.
For my two bits worth, the beatification of John Paul the Amazing would demonstrate the urgent need for the "Devil's Advocate".
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ReplyDeleteI'm not into ecumania, myself, but I'm not convinced that JPII can be accused of religious indifferentism. Holding an ecumenical and interfaith gathering is not necessarily a sign of religious indifferentism.
ReplyDeleteIt's just my username. Not a pseudonym. Anyhow, it's John. You know, your co-worker. The guy who bugs you all the time.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, Felix, I'm a fan of trusting the Church when it canonizes someone, even if some theologians are divided on whether they're infallible or not. After all, who are we to decide whether or not someone should be canonized?
That, John, is why we call your ilk "conservative".
ReplyDeleteI don't have a problem with beatification but it is way too early for a cannonization.
ReplyDeleteHolding an ecumenical and interfaith gathering is not necessarily a sign of religious indifferentism.
ReplyDeleteAm I reading this correctly?
Yes.
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