tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post8169242086912364917..comments2023-11-03T12:44:19.948+01:00Comments on Orwell's Picnic ~: Problems problems - sorry, it's Lent, time for some Traddie ObsessingHilary Jane Margaret Whitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03771332473693479830noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post-65902136567426638402008-02-07T06:58:00.000+01:002008-02-07T06:58:00.000+01:00Hi HilaryI'm sorry but Fr Blake is simply wrong ab...Hi Hilary<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry but Fr Blake is simply wrong about some alleged "new teaching" on the Old Covenant.<BR/><BR/>If he can cite an actual text from Vatican II to support his statement, I'd really like to see it. If he can, I'll accept his highly unlikely assertion. Otherwise, I'll assume this is yet another case of Vatican II "hand-waving".<BR/><BR/>JulianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post-35805946276559485892008-02-06T18:43:00.000+01:002008-02-06T18:43:00.000+01:00well, your system is better than Fr. Tim's who see...well, your system is better than Fr. Tim's who seems to do it himself, but only when he gets the time. The only thing I object to is that it makes it very difficult to have the sort of interesting back and forth that makes blogs fun. <BR/><BR/>Of course, this might be the very resason he does it. Not everyone relishes a bit of verbal fisticuffs before tea time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post-13475676202231765502008-02-06T16:51:00.000+01:002008-02-06T16:51:00.000+01:00I hadn't realised you were this Hilary, with the e...I hadn't realised you were this Hilary, with the excellent blog.<BR/>I have com.mod. stop a whole list of things, mostly far right racism and extreme Islamism both of which I have had in the past, as well as bits of pornography, but certainly not to stop anyone who wants to makimg a strong point. <BR/>Modcom might be a bit nervy British and nelliefied but there are times I don't get to the pc for hours.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post-56991462796898539902008-02-06T14:27:00.000+01:002008-02-06T14:27:00.000+01:00(in Greek)stop bragging.<I>(in Greek)</I><BR/><BR/>stop bragging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post-31704109167423922342008-02-06T14:26:00.000+01:002008-02-06T14:26:00.000+01:00There are quite a few more available, in fact. But...There are quite a few more available, in fact. <BR/><BR/>But blog entries ought to be short.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15895111.post-73468276105800955732008-02-06T13:42:00.000+01:002008-02-06T13:42:00.000+01:00You forget to mention a third possibility, that th...You forget to mention a third possibility, that the contradiction is only apparent and not real.<BR/><BR/>First of all, don't think for a second that I favour the NO prayer for the Jews, BUT<BR/><BR/>In as much as the church has always taught that elements of truth (but not salvation) exist outside the Church (recently, for example, I was reading a speech of St Basil the Great (in Greek) to some nephews where he advised them to read the pagan authors and glean the good that is found in them, like bees who go from flower to flower, taking only what is good and necessary for making their honey)<BR/>in asking that the Jews "first to hear the word of God" (which is a fact) may "grow in love of his name<BR/>" (nothing wrong with that) and "in faithfulness to his covenant"--ok here is the problem.<BR/>It either means that the Old Covenant has not been superceded (which would be heresy) or that whatever truth is present in what they believe, through docility and humility, may bring them to the fulness of the truth. <BR/>It has to mean the second, even if the people who wrote prayer really meant the first. <BR/>As to why I am a bit peeved with the Holy Father, it is not because he changed the prayer, but that he didn't impose the 'new one' on the whole church, especially the Novus Ordo. I am happy with the change because it will allow some people at an undisclosed location to celebrate the authentic Holy Week liturgy that doesn't include the many Buggerini permutations in the 1962 which already prefigure the NO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com