self-absorbed promethean neopelagian and inveterate Rosary-counter
Never known for our collective charisma or charm, those who self-identify as “Traditionalist” can often be about as much fun as a leaky bottle of lemon juice at a paper cut party.
So true. The prevalence of the silent, non-participatory low Mass prior to the Council made it much easier for the liturgical 'reforms' to take root. Many Catholics were happy to see it go. Contrast this with the liturgy of the Orthodox. The Orthodox would kill their priests and bishops first before they allowed any tinkering with the venerable liturgy of St John Chrysostom. Many traditionalist Catholics are quite prepared to dismiss the Orthodox as mere 'schismatics' not worth thinking about, but the question should be asked: why has their Church not gone through the ugly deformation the Roman Catholic Church has suffered? Steve's article points to the answer: the people love their liturgy, and they 'own' it. It engages the worshipper in a way the low Mass never could.Another point: the creation of docile, unthinking Catholics did not just drive people away from the Church, it also paved the way for uncritical acceptance of liturgical destruction, in the name of obedience.Lydia
Personally, I hate being asked to make conversation at Mass, and even long before I gave up the NO for good had stopped "giving the responses". There is nothing I find more disruptive and I don't see any reason I should have to. That's what altar servers are for, and I don't have an ego about them being fully authorised to speak on my behalf, leaving me in peace to follow along at my own pace, to linger on the good bits, or even to ignore the words and just look at the pictures in the book or on the walls. It's what the peasants/laity did for centuries and I see no reason I have to "do a job" when I'm already busy talking to God. It's like a rude child interrupting my conversation with a grown up, tugging at my sleeve and demanding attention. In fact, I often go to Mass with the express intention of just spacing out completely and staring blankly off into the middle distance. In fact, I see no reason to pester the laity with all this stand/sit/kneel nonsense either. Why can't they just leave us to say the Rosary quietly, and do their liturgical calisthenics up there on stage. "Active participation..." faugh!
Definitely he goes to the wrong parties. Or is not invited to the right parties.
I rather like the Solemn High. And even so, there's a lot less of the chattiness in that than exists in the NO.
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